Eternal Galaxy Project

@Cucoo

But that is almost exactly how a certain quantum material an Ethan's ship behaves, only it exists. If that is the case, then what if Ethan were to program his ship's computer to interact with the Nihilids, or adapt his ship's programming for the GAIA computer?

To be honest, I think the GAIA computer might contain the answer in one form or another. After all, "While the Void denies any beings the ability to exist through the use of the Nihiliods, Venturia used the GAIA Computer to promote the existence of beings in the galaxy".

Better yet, what if they were to use the GAIA computer's programming to create a "weapon" against the Nihilids. The computer can warp reality itself, so what if we introduce nothingness's opposite, something they can't destroy? It's a relatively new idea, so I'm refining it. Doesn't help that I'm getting distracted by the TV. :p

Not unless they're not supposed to have a weakness for plot reasons.

...come back my beautiful paradox...

actually wait... I still have it.
Main difference is their base "state" is non-existence. So after you kill a Nihiliod, you essentially remove it from existence as you destroyed the existential body. The Nihiliod is still "alive"
You kill the body but not the being. It's not like a soul though... because I define souls as existing via Anti Energy (Can we figure out a new name for Anti? It's buggin me now...).
Once you kill it, you can't interact with it and it can't interact with you. But it's still "there" just... not...

Now the GAIA Computer was combating them: Phoenix Code was the weapon. The Phoenix code replaced nothing with something. In this case, something in the form of beings and a "refreshed" galaxy.
It works... if it wasn't for the fact the Void still has a tie to existence through the Unknown.
So at the end of the day it would probably work out where the way to beat the Nihiliods is to 1) beat the Void and 2) reset the galaxy immediately
Easier said than done.

Oh and I just realized...
The barrier containing the situation to the Eternal Galaxy is gone now...
...The Nihiliods can spread beyond the Galaxy...

@Cucoo

Yes, but resetting the galaxy didn't wipe out the Nihilids before, so why would it work now?

As for the Unknown, what do you have in mind? From what I understand, you made it so that simply touching him is worse than death, and by that logic, nothing can touch or affect him.

Not unless they use Heaven's Forge to craft weapons/armor specifically designed to kill him.

Did you see this passage?

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Void

"There's always a way!"

"You can't give up hope! We can make it through this!"

"We will not yield!"

The voices echoed in the corners of Aion's mind. They seem so distant, memories of a bygone age. At the present, Aion couldn't tell where he was. He couldn't see anything. He couldn't feel anything. Nothing. None of his senses could grasp where he was. He couldn't tell if he was lying down, standing up, or falling. However, when he went to reach for his face, he could still feel the pressure of his hand against his face and his face against his hand. He was awake, but everything felt so unreal.

"The void, as a concept, is the absence of all existence."
"So the void doesn't exist?"
"...in a way, yes."
"Then why are we afraid of the void?"
"...because it does exist."
"But that contradicts what you just said. If it does exist, how can it not exist?"
"...it's...it's complicated."
"Well, couldn't ya say that it's the embodiment of a paradox?"
"A paradox? I guess but... still, why do we have to fear the void?"

The hairs on Aion's nape stood on end. Something else was there with him. Although none of his other senses detected anything, he still had that feeling there was something, or someone else close by.

"...a consciousness. There is a consciousness tied to the void."
"Wha-" Aion suddenly became alert. It was another memory...but this one was foreign. The voice associated with it was familiar but...

"My colleague was indeed successful." The image of Nyx started to form in his mind. "However...due to the unstable nature of which they achieved this..."
"...Replicating it would be unwise?" Another voice, this time a man.
"Yes."
"And what of the GAIA Project?"
"Done, we will be able to utilize it should-"
"Should the parasites spread any further?"
"Pardon?"
"Your former colleague has already utilized the void to create a new race of parasites to cleanse the galaxy of all other beings."
"...I...I see..."
"However, the possibility of these creatures escaping the bounds of the galaxy is high enough that a means to destroy them is necessary. And we believe the GAIA Project can be modified to do that and perform what we initially intended to do with the VOID Project."
"You...intend on using the GAIA Computer to wipe out all beings? Not just restoring resources?"
"Precisely."
"But-"
"I am sure you will be able to modify it accordingly, won't you, Venturia?"
"...Y-yes. I'll begin work right...away."

The memory ended and left Aion with a plethora of questions and revelations. A sharp pain in his mind prevented him from dwelling on the recent discoveries. The pain of memories being forcefully brought to the forefront of his mind made Aion reel. A sudden onslaught of words, said by various people he knew, were brought together into a sentence.

"You cannot escape me, spawn of Venturia."

As the pain subsided, Aion looked forward. In the nothingness, he thought he could see the silhouette of a person. "You're...the..."

Pain again as everyone he knew said in unison "Void."

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I've been using the Unknown to directly refer to the Caeles that became the Void.

Now the thing is... you can't touch him because he doesn't "exist enough to do so."

Now something that I've been toying with...
I was thinking that maybe some part of the Unknown has been captured in the Shards of Starlight... possibly it's consciousness...or not really...
The Shards bear a connection to the Unknown...
They were created to try and capture it but... they didn't exactly succeed...
The Caeles thought they managed to capture the Void but...they didn't...not exactly.

@Cucoo

So they need to gather the SoS and.. throw them at him? :p

Ok, that's just me screwing around, but I guess they have to make him "whole", right? What happens then? :confused:

Eternal Galaxy Project

actually part of me thought something similar.

Truth be told I think the only way to beat it would be to try and seal it the rest of the way into the SoS and then throw them into the void so that it no longer exists. Easier said than done because 1) you have to get to the void... Which i don't know how that would happen (might be by fissure...)
2) you have to try and pull of what the Caeles couldn't.
3) might be a one way trip. But that's minor.

...I don't think it really could be possible... Because the Unknown is... Unknown.


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@Cucoo

Yea, the funny thing is that I can't think of any other way of beating him other than essentially throwing these rocks of mass destruction at him. XD

Also, about the void itself, what would happen if someone were to enter it? Is there any way to safely enter, kind of like what the Caeles did?


Also, I might be able to upload pics of the ship's progress so far. So far, Ethan's ship looks like a giant metal pecan. XD

Why wouldn't what be possible? :confused:

Eternal Galaxy Project

Yeah I... Might just say that's how it's done. Of course the hard part is as I listed off.

Tbh...
It seems so ridiculously simple it begs the question why it wasn't done already...

As for what happens when in the void... The closest I got to answering that is in the passage titled "Void"

And...
Pecan? So it looks really strange?

I was referring to the fact that the Unknown at this point both exists and doesn't exist so it would be hard to capture it... Possibly being impossible to do so.


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@Cucoo

Well, not unless we dope up Ethan on Nihilid blood, then get him into a boxing match with the unknown. XD

also, no. I mean that it looks like a giant metal pecan. It is a giant, metal, double bullet boat space pecan. XD.

I'll try and get a pic soon.

If Nihiliods even have blood...


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