@S121
Yeah, I did say that in his bio that Bardock would normally be significantly stronger, but I nerfed him quite a bit by saying that only his Ki energy received the Zenkai boost when he was severely injured by Frieza's destroyed Planet Vegeta (and Bardock tried stopping him but failed, with the resulting energy combined with Bardock's then psychic powers) and ended up in the EG universe.
I'd say in the RP Bardock is capable of going Super Saiyan, but only with the ultimate rage trigger from hell. Though that is because his Ki energy level is high enough, while his physical stats will and always remain similar to John (except in the event Bardock does go Super Saiyan.) In which case he would get a 50x boost to his physical capabilities, and a smaller boost to his boost to his Ki energy level (I don't know... say... 2x boost?) Thankfully Bardock unlike other Saiyans, does have restraint to not blow up a planet for no reason (in the event he did have enough power in actual DBZ Canon.) The only problem with the Super Saiyan form in the RP, should it ever be achieved, is that it will increase Bardock's power. However it will be constantly draining his energy in such form. Meaning whenever he were to go Super Saiyan, he would need to do whatever is needed to be done fast before he reverts to normal (and would need to recharge his energy for a long time.)
Now I'm wondering what it would be like if the 7 Dragon Balls were in the RP. As well as what John and the others would probably think of Bardock. A proud warrior who was pretty much born to fight, and is also one of the smartest people of his race (he was stated to be a great scientist.) Yet lost his entire planet, and pretty much his entire race due to some evil tyrant who got too afraid of the potential of all the Saiyan's on Planet Vegeta. Bardock in a sense lost everything. His closest allies, the woman he fell in love with (and became the mother of his children), and his entire planet were all killed by a tyranical madman (Frieza). Yet Bardock is still willing to keep on fighting despite losing everything.
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10/01/2014, 02:10 PM #302
ok people (mainly Cucoo)
What do we have as a fact of the nihiloids? I´m making a draft of their lore, but I neeed the facts so I can actually do it without wronging myself
What do we have as a fact of the nihiloids? I´m making a draft of their lore, but I neeed the facts so I can actually do it without wronging myself
Have you ever crossed the line between sanity and madness? You would be amazed by what lies beyond the fog..
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10/01/2014, 02:43 PM #304
@Sus
No, it won't happen until someone finds the dormant nest. Which would be deep underground in the winding passages of the old Dark Mage city, which is southeast of the colony if it's in the mountains of the north.
@Kristia
What happens to a host (replacement of organs) and their hive mind (Controlled by the Void) is pretty solid atm.
Generalistic concepts such as the fact they are extraordinarily resilient and when and/or how they can be killed are up in the air kinda.
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No, it won't happen until someone finds the dormant nest. Which would be deep underground in the winding passages of the old Dark Mage city, which is southeast of the colony if it's in the mountains of the north.
@Kristia
What happens to a host (replacement of organs) and their hive mind (Controlled by the Void) is pretty solid atm.
Generalistic concepts such as the fact they are extraordinarily resilient and when and/or how they can be killed are up in the air kinda.
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10/01/2014, 02:59 PM #305
@Cucoo
I wouldn't say until, more like "when" or "if" someone does. Because remember, if the plot does not demand it, then people might not be sent to the old Dark Mage City. Though if it is going to be a part of the plot of any of the arcs, then someone might be sent there.
Also derp.
I wouldn't say until, more like "when" or "if" someone does. Because remember, if the plot does not demand it, then people might not be sent to the old Dark Mage City. Though if it is going to be a part of the plot of any of the arcs, then someone might be sent there.
Also derp.
10/01/2014, 04:13 PM #306
ok then, I can use the Alien movies idea of introducing the creature inside the host, then it will adapt to the body to gain nutrients and slowly grow while gaining knowledge frothe host´s mind
Then with that information, the hive will understand the hot´s area, culture, etcetera until the time to release the outbreak starts, in the meanwhile, the nihiloid will stay "dormant".
Here starts my idea about how to kill them and how they are so resilient (or adaptable for what I understand)
To actually kill a Nihiloid, there are some points that have to be checked depending on the creature´s status:
When it gets in a host and it is known the creature is inside, if there is time, the Nihiloid can be eradicated by using laser/ultrasonic surgery (use Resident Evil 4 Plaga as example), but if it gets attached to a vital organ, the chances to take it out and replacing the organ is highly dangerous because the creature might react violently by killing the host.
When the Nihiloid is inside and controlling the Host (as Cucoo used the "Princess" example): The creature is still "connected" to the host because of their union via organs, so if the host gets injured, the Nihiloid will suffer too, so to actually kill the creature, it is extremely vital to use the host´s critical weaknesses (heart, brain, lungs for example), that will weaken the Nihiloid enough to be slowed and destroyed.
CAUTION.- To evade any risk of infection from the Nihiloid, it is needed to incinerate the body to the point of cremation leaving only dust.
It is yet unknown what to do when dealing with a "Pure" Nihiloid because the information that has been obtained so far shows that they act as an infection to the hosts and have a high adaptability system by using the host´s genes.
Data about the "Pure" Nihiloids is yet to be found.
The Nihiloids can adapt pretty easily with their surroundings IF they get a host from the area, the host will have information about the surroundings, the weather, the culture, and it´s physical immunities to the area. The next of the Nihiloid Kin will have this advantages from the collective gene pool to become better in all areas.
Last edited by Kristia; 10/01/2014, 04:19 PM. Then with that information, the hive will understand the hot´s area, culture, etcetera until the time to release the outbreak starts, in the meanwhile, the nihiloid will stay "dormant".
Here starts my idea about how to kill them and how they are so resilient (or adaptable for what I understand)
To actually kill a Nihiloid, there are some points that have to be checked depending on the creature´s status:
When it gets in a host and it is known the creature is inside, if there is time, the Nihiloid can be eradicated by using laser/ultrasonic surgery (use Resident Evil 4 Plaga as example), but if it gets attached to a vital organ, the chances to take it out and replacing the organ is highly dangerous because the creature might react violently by killing the host.
When the Nihiloid is inside and controlling the Host (as Cucoo used the "Princess" example): The creature is still "connected" to the host because of their union via organs, so if the host gets injured, the Nihiloid will suffer too, so to actually kill the creature, it is extremely vital to use the host´s critical weaknesses (heart, brain, lungs for example), that will weaken the Nihiloid enough to be slowed and destroyed.
CAUTION.- To evade any risk of infection from the Nihiloid, it is needed to incinerate the body to the point of cremation leaving only dust.
It is yet unknown what to do when dealing with a "Pure" Nihiloid because the information that has been obtained so far shows that they act as an infection to the hosts and have a high adaptability system by using the host´s genes.
Data about the "Pure" Nihiloids is yet to be found.
The Nihiloids can adapt pretty easily with their surroundings IF they get a host from the area, the host will have information about the surroundings, the weather, the culture, and it´s physical immunities to the area. The next of the Nihiloid Kin will have this advantages from the collective gene pool to become better in all areas.
Have you ever crossed the line between sanity and madness? You would be amazed by what lies beyond the fog..
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10/01/2014, 06:03 PM #307
[OOC Board] Eternal Galaxy: Phoenix
I like what I see
A few concepts I would want to experiment with:
- The Nihiliod replaces internal organs with its own.
- A fully grown Nihiliod can exist without a host. So two phases of Nihiliod growth allows it to exist without a host.
> Larvae Phase: small, mite-like in appearance, about half the size of a golf ball and capable of becoming paper thin. They burrow into a host by first numbing the area of entry and then slipping in by flattening themselves.
Sometimes multiple larvae will enter a host and go dormant, using it as a transport.
> Parasitic Phase: This is where they start to reroute circulatory systems and nervous systems through them so when they consume internal organs, the host does not feel it.
> Adult Phase: They now have a fully developed exoskeleton independent of the host that is adapted to withstand whatever the host knows as a threat as well as what previous generations have adapted to. They will then consume the rest of the host body. They can start reproducing at this phase, laying hundreds of eggs at a time.
> Queen phase: Massive Nihiliods that can lay billions upon billions of eggs. Ultimately immobile. There can only be one Nihiliod Queen on one planet. The queen is capable of surviving off of Aura energy found near the core of a planet. If there is no more organic life on a planet other than the Nihiliod presence, then the queen will consume all Nihiliods and go dormant until new organic life disturbs it. How this happens...
...idk. Possibly using the concept that all living beings have Aura energy and if a concentration of Aura energy is detected on the surface of a planet, the queen awakes...
Or if the planet's Aura energy is altered through mining operations...
@ SUS
It's not a question of "if"
it's only the question of "when"
Last edited by Cucoo5; 10/02/2014, 05:41 AM. Originally posted by Kristia
ok then, I can use the Alien movies idea of introducing the creature inside the host, then it will adapt to the body to gain nutrients and slowly grow while gaining knowledge frothe host´s mind
Then with that information, the hive will understand the hot´s area, culture, etcetera until the time to release the outbreak starts, in the meanwhile, the nihiloid will stay "dormant".
Here starts my idea about how to kill them and how they are so resilient (or adaptable for what I understand)
To actually kill a Nihiloid, there are some points that have to be checked depending on the creature´s status:
When it gets in a host and it is known the creature is inside, if there is time, the Nihiloid can be eradicated by using laser/ultrasonic surgery (use Resident Evil 4 Plaga as example), but if it gets attached to a vital organ, the chances to take it out and replacing the organ is highly dangerous because the creature might react violently by killing the host.
When the Nihiloid is inside and controlling the Host (as Cucoo used the "Princess" example): The creature is still "connected" to the host because of their union via organs, so if the host gets injured, the Nihiloid will suffer too, so to actually kill the creature, it is extremely vital to use the host´s critical weaknesses (heart, brain, lungs for example), that will weaken the Nihiloid enough to be slowed and destroyed.
CAUTION.- To evade any risk of infection from the Nihiloid, it is needed to incinerate the body to the point of cremation leaving only dust.
It is yet unknown what to do when dealing with a "Pure" Nihiloid because the information that has been obtained so far shows that they act as an infection to the hosts and have a high adaptability system by using the host´s genes.
Data about the "Pure" Nihiloids is yet to be found.
The Nihiloids can adapt pretty easily with their surroundings IF they get a host from the area, the host will have information about the surroundings, the weather, the culture, and it´s physical immunities to the area. The next of the Nihiloid Kin will have this advantages from the collective gene pool to become better in all areas.
I like what I see
A few concepts I would want to experiment with:
- The Nihiliod replaces internal organs with its own.
- A fully grown Nihiliod can exist without a host. So two phases of Nihiliod growth allows it to exist without a host.
> Larvae Phase: small, mite-like in appearance, about half the size of a golf ball and capable of becoming paper thin. They burrow into a host by first numbing the area of entry and then slipping in by flattening themselves.
Sometimes multiple larvae will enter a host and go dormant, using it as a transport.
> Parasitic Phase: This is where they start to reroute circulatory systems and nervous systems through them so when they consume internal organs, the host does not feel it.
> Adult Phase: They now have a fully developed exoskeleton independent of the host that is adapted to withstand whatever the host knows as a threat as well as what previous generations have adapted to. They will then consume the rest of the host body. They can start reproducing at this phase, laying hundreds of eggs at a time.
> Queen phase: Massive Nihiliods that can lay billions upon billions of eggs. Ultimately immobile. There can only be one Nihiliod Queen on one planet. The queen is capable of surviving off of Aura energy found near the core of a planet. If there is no more organic life on a planet other than the Nihiliod presence, then the queen will consume all Nihiliods and go dormant until new organic life disturbs it. How this happens...
...idk. Possibly using the concept that all living beings have Aura energy and if a concentration of Aura energy is detected on the surface of a planet, the queen awakes...
Or if the planet's Aura energy is altered through mining operations...
@ SUS
It's not a question of "if"
it's only the question of "when"
10/02/2014, 05:06 AM #308
@Cucoo
Ok, I'll keep that in mind.
Also, I was reading the lore on the Nihilids and thought about what we were talking about earlier. I think that this will be an interesting turn of events, especially if he's infected by a pure Nihilid. It would be like a biological arms race. :p
@SUS
"Born to fight?"
I think he and Johnnyboy's gonna get along just fine. :p
Also, when you say that he's physically similar to John, do you mean unarmored, armored, or armored with Cortana in his suit?
Sorry if I'm nitpicking, I'm just trying to get a good idea on what you mean. XD
Let's just say that being gone has not stopped me from making calculations. It's like the three categories mentioned are burned into my brain. :p
Ok, I'll keep that in mind.
Also, I was reading the lore on the Nihilids and thought about what we were talking about earlier. I think that this will be an interesting turn of events, especially if he's infected by a pure Nihilid. It would be like a biological arms race. :p
@SUS
"Born to fight?"
I think he and Johnnyboy's gonna get along just fine. :p
Also, when you say that he's physically similar to John, do you mean unarmored, armored, or armored with Cortana in his suit?
Sorry if I'm nitpicking, I'm just trying to get a good idea on what you mean. XD
Let's just say that being gone has not stopped me from making calculations. It's like the three categories mentioned are burned into my brain. :p
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10/02/2014, 05:18 AM #309
since things are still rather slow on the colony, I will send the bioroid in a not so delicate landind.
Expect fire, destruction, confusion and fear for a second.
Allof this if I have an approval of the GM though, the Nihiloid stuff can wait, I got even more things to mess up things in that colony *grins wickedly*
Expect fire, destruction, confusion and fear for a second.
Allof this if I have an approval of the GM though, the Nihiloid stuff can wait, I got even more things to mess up things in that colony *grins wickedly*
Have you ever crossed the line between sanity and madness? You would be amazed by what lies beyond the fog..
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10/02/2014, 05:39 AM #310
@ Kristia
It seems as though "not so delicate landings" are a popular choice for making one heck of an entrance.
Sustic? Do you have any objections to this?
@ S1
perhaps...
If we go with my concept of the four phases, then I think the biggest challenge would be the Adult and Queen phases.
It seems as though "not so delicate landings" are a popular choice for making one heck of an entrance.
Sustic? Do you have any objections to this?
@ S1
perhaps...
If we go with my concept of the four phases, then I think the biggest challenge would be the Adult and Queen phases.