Trinity Soul University: A Casual Magic RP (OOC)

@Alayo
I'm pretty certain that Eirin, the creator of the Hourai Elixir, would have at least had a taste of it. It's heavily implied that she's immortal like Kaguya and Mokou. Could be wrong though. Imperishable Night was among my least played games. Alongside Ten Desires.

As for the app, I am a mod for this RP and I can pass judgement upon apps.
For what it is, your app is most certain to be accepted. The only problems that SUSTIC and I are having are around metaformation. It's a great concept but I'm uncertain on what this means for other characters. Because mages in the RP have been shown to use technology just fine. For example, Jason using a Walkman and Lynne playing League on a laptop. Don't ask me how League exists in this world. Blame our resident League addict. This mainly draws down to a few questions. But mostly does metaformation occur when the mage actually INTENDS on destroying the piece of technology or can people accidentally cause it?

Although this doesn't affect my characters (as one is an incompetent elf and the other doesn't usually use technology), I'm still curious about what metaformation means to other characters? Will any characters even be affected by metaformation unless they try? Or will we have explosions left, right, and centre?

If we can clear this up then I would be more than happy to accept Andril. That or another RP staff member will.

Dammit Alalalagi-san, I can tell that you're a better writer than I am just from looking at your character app.


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Eirin has not drank the Elixer. in Inaba of Moon/Earth Eirin gets a cold, which, if she had drank the Eilixer, simply could not happen.


AS FOR METAFORMATION!

Its the reaction that happens when you try and mix the two. In truth, the reaction is always happening, just because there so much "worked" material around our magical misfits. The degree it happens is the degree that the two sources are being "Mixed" per say.

Lets say that there is an average value of "5" Techonology always floating around in an average home. We will assume this is a low value, since its ambiant floty stuff in the air. Now, Jimbo the master Blaster casts a spell, which might have some wacky Fireball Value of 500 or some such. That fireball has to effortlessly power through that 5 Tech-power or it fizzles. that "5" also diminishes the Fire's power by a nearly unobserveable amount.

On the same idea, an electrical outlet in and of itself might have a pretty high tech value, like 120 for the sake of example(And voltage!!). Now jimbo attempts to run 100 Electrical magic power through it to try and blow up a circuit breaker or something. 100 of that power gets chopped by the exceeding "tech", and despite the electiral induction and such, Jimbo's spell fizzles because of "Metaformation". Cross with his inability to blow up a random circuit breaker, he goes to play Leuage. No magical exchange is taking place, so his 305729875434578 Tech Laptop doesn't give a darn about his 3383838388383 Magic Body.


Metaformation is the energy "expended" when the two forces collide, and match up. Jimbo's fireball in aimbiant tech-Home-Air creates 5 metaformation in this exampe, despite the wacky amount of magic in the fireball. Enough though his electrical endeavor to blow up his breaker failed, 100 of Metaformation energy was created inreaction to the chain. Andy is attempting to harness that 5 and that 100, not the other numbers. What he does with it? He doesn't even know yet, since he's never gathered enough to do anything with.

The likelyhood that casting magic NEAR a laptop would fry its circuits is next to none, because in order for the ambiant magical energy to overpower the laptop it would have to be destructive enough to have likely made a crator the size of a house or bigger--thus destroying nearby laptop. Using magical to directly affect the laptop, like making it float would produce a better reaction.

The numbers in these examples are completely innacurate, and simply used to show the two values are "Colliding". In Arcanum, the pressance of a magical person would make Tech go wacky. Thats because Arcanum was Steampunk and Tech didn't have to be everywhere for us to get along with our lives. In this setting, a bit more leaway is due, esspecially since the "heart" Tearig to two forces apart equally would be less, since the heart in question is more acustomed to technology.


Quick, important note:
It is VERY important to note the Metaformation Energy is not created because the two forces collide, but because a person causes them to collide. It is created by that person, not by the reaction of the two forces. More people involved = more Meta-energy made.

@Alayosho
Crap... The one manga that I did not read... Curse you, Touhou manga! You have foiled me again!

So it is only caused when people intend on causing it or when people directly use magic ON the object in question. Right. Just wanted to know. It's really hard to try and get your head around a concept that can break already existing concepts if not structured correctly. I honestly believe that you've got this down to an already fine level and I don't think it needs further refinement and judgement.

From what I'll say here, I will accept Andril and approve of his magic use. But most likely, myself and SUSTIC will have to continue considering the inclusion of this new concept and how we can work with it. Heck, we could even consider some story elements around this concept. I know I already have an idea. An extremely half-baked one but an idea nonetheless.
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@alay

So...
Friction for magic?




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I would have to think how it would work a little for myself and how it will interact with my characters.

Oh and BTW about that Hourai Elixir. I have to say that TRXD is right, Eirin did use the Hourai Elixir.

Taken from the Touhou wiki

Netherworld Team's has Eirin visiting Hakugyokurou as Yuyuko serves Tea that turns out to be poisonous as Eirin recognizes the ingredient and notes with her expertise that poisoning attempts won't work on her. Yuyuko hints at not using all her power and wonders about giving the rest to Youmu. Yuyuko reveals that after seeing the true moon both her and Youmu's eyes have been hurting and that she attempted to poison Eirin as to get her services for them permanently. Eirin answers she can't fix that problem but she will attend to other problems in the future. They talk about the death and Netherworld, or precisely the oddity of a ghost worrying about her health. Youmu comes in talking about a holy living spirit and Eirin realizing she's gotten case of insanity. She offers some therapy before making a medicine as she goes on to say she can't work for them directly as she drank the "medicine made with the princess' ability" (better known as the Hourai Elixir), which Yuyuko calls her greatest enemy. Youmu wonders about who'd want to make enemies with Yuyuko. Yuyuko then tells Youmu not to drink the tea as Eirin remarks on different treatments. It goes on to state that Yuyuko considers the hourai elixir-immortals her enemies as the elixir prevents death which in turn prevents new ghosts from arriving in the Netherworld, making it less "lively".

Friction? Sort of. Techonolgy is that friction. Or magic is technology's friction. OR BOTH! Basically, the two oppose each other, and Andril WANTS to use that energy thats created when the two are opposing each other. All my fancy explaining and stuff up there? He has no freaking clue. He knows that Magic + Tech = Reaction, and thats it. Now then, off to the RP world for Andril's first post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But then how did she get a cold!? Dod Gammit ZUN

@ Alay

yep, It is friction exactly.

Originally posted by wiki
Friction is the force resisting the relative motion of solid surfaces, fluid layers, and material elements sliding against each other.

[...] When surfaces in contact move relative to each other, the friction between the two surfaces converts kinetic energy into heat.

So the way I see it is that everything has a "coefficient of magical friction" which resists the "movement" of magic through it and then converts the energy lost from the "kinetic energy" of the magic through any medium into...magic.

... I can see how this could get really OP real fast.
especially in an area where magic is being casted actively (i.e. battle)

You forgot that its limited by a "techonolgy" factor. Again with math:

Lets say there's an amibient, or even Active Technology in the area of 20, and a source of magic being applied to it is 10000000000000000000000000.

One might think: Holy f***, thats gonna make SOOOO much for Andril to use!

But it wont. The Metaformation only happens within that first twenty before the technology becomes saturated. It doesn't matter how much magic is being flung around ANDRIL, it matters how much Magic is being flung around Technology around Andril. Even them, if its a Dollar-Store Fan, only so much Metaform Energy will be produced before the fan simply goes blank while the magic goes crazy. Having a lot of people through around a lot of magic simply makes the point of saturation come quicker.