@Cucoo
That might not work...
You have cases where people would be very strong and fast. Take John for instance. He is capable of lifting 66 metric tons, possibly even more, can run at close to 70 mph, has a reaction time 75 times faster than the average human. Of course, that's with many Spartans. They aren't as strong as a Spartan-II, but they are very dangerous. Then you have the abilityis of Renamon, Nera, and many other magic users. How do you calculate the damage output and defensive capabilities of their magic? The main problem is that the Characters are to diverse to put an accurate number on their abilities without heavily downplaying them, or overplaying them.
You also have the case with creativity. A lot of the battles work based on creativity. We go by a sort of honor system where the person agrees that they get hit when things are not in their favor. I admit, it does have it's faults, but it has worked and gotten us this far, so it can't be broken, can it?
For me, I give my characters realistic stats based on real world measurements.
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10/22/2013, 07:14 PM #16983
@ S121
Right...
Yea...It's probably just me cause sometimes things get "over-the-top" and makes me scream inside begging for a limit to appear and also gives me a major headache trying to comprehend what just happened and what there is to counter it then I realize there's nothing and therefore can't do anything. To use something most would understand: Imagine having one ground type pokemon with one move type going against a ghost type. You can't do anything to the ghost, but it can defeat you with ease. Does that illustrate my fear of what can happen?
Right...
Yea...It's probably just me cause sometimes things get "over-the-top" and makes me scream inside begging for a limit to appear and also gives me a major headache trying to comprehend what just happened and what there is to counter it then I realize there's nothing and therefore can't do anything. To use something most would understand: Imagine having one ground type pokemon with one move type going against a ghost type. You can't do anything to the ghost, but it can defeat you with ease. Does that illustrate my fear of what can happen?
10/22/2013, 07:20 PM #16984
@Cucoo
While I do understand what you are thinking I think it would greatly hamper us in many different ways. As S121 says we just have to keep it reasonable. In the John vs Ansem fight Ansem had a huge advantage in that they were in the Realm of Darkness, in fact he was so sure of winning he didn't think John would have anything to go against him, then a giant Onibashira hit's him.
While I do understand what you are thinking I think it would greatly hamper us in many different ways. As S121 says we just have to keep it reasonable. In the John vs Ansem fight Ansem had a huge advantage in that they were in the Realm of Darkness, in fact he was so sure of winning he didn't think John would have anything to go against him, then a giant Onibashira hit's him.
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Molded in the dark. Never Forget, Keep Fighting. |
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Don't Forget.
Always, somewhere,
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As long as you remember her,
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10/22/2013, 07:22 PM #16985
@Cucoo
I think I get it, but Pokemon is not the best example to use. Pokemon is very defined, and goes by the numbers.
I don't think you have to worry about getting beat up by powerful Characters. Isaac is basically just a human with powertools, but because I was creative with him, he was able to stand his own against one of the most powerful enemies in the Devourer arc. In this RP, creativity is rewarded with victory. Even weak Characters can beat stronger opponents if they use strategy and creativity.
Think of it like a boss battle. The boss should easily stomp your Character into the ground, but with the right tools and strategy, you can beat him. It's hard, but in the end, you will eventually pull through.
As for it all being over-the-top, things will calm down, now that the Devourer Arc is over and done with. Things should go back to how they were when the RP first started out. The action will be smaller and things will be calmer.
@Katrix
Exactly.
Ansem had the upper hand, but thanks to creativity, some help, and a little bit of luck, John was able to beat him.
Ansem fits into my boss analogy.
I still think it was the best, if not one of the best fights in the entire RP.:p
Last edited by S121; 10/22/2013, 07:26 PM. I think I get it, but Pokemon is not the best example to use. Pokemon is very defined, and goes by the numbers.
I don't think you have to worry about getting beat up by powerful Characters. Isaac is basically just a human with powertools, but because I was creative with him, he was able to stand his own against one of the most powerful enemies in the Devourer arc. In this RP, creativity is rewarded with victory. Even weak Characters can beat stronger opponents if they use strategy and creativity.
Think of it like a boss battle. The boss should easily stomp your Character into the ground, but with the right tools and strategy, you can beat him. It's hard, but in the end, you will eventually pull through.
As for it all being over-the-top, things will calm down, now that the Devourer Arc is over and done with. Things should go back to how they were when the RP first started out. The action will be smaller and things will be calmer.
@Katrix
Exactly.
Ansem had the upper hand, but thanks to creativity, some help, and a little bit of luck, John was able to beat him.
Ansem fits into my boss analogy.
I still think it was the best, if not one of the best fights in the entire RP.:p
Originally posted by S121
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10/22/2013, 07:35 PM #16987
@Wriggle
Exactly. You hit it right on the head.:p
@Cucoo
Trust doesn't sound like much to go by, but a little bit of it can go a long way.:p
It's not as precise as quantified data, but it allows flexibility and creativity to flourish, and allows the RP to feel more like a story than a game of numbers and odds.
In the end, every video game character tends to defy the odds anyway, so it wouldn't work very well.
Exactly. You hit it right on the head.:p
@Cucoo
Trust doesn't sound like much to go by, but a little bit of it can go a long way.:p
It's not as precise as quantified data, but it allows flexibility and creativity to flourish, and allows the RP to feel more like a story than a game of numbers and odds.
In the end, every video game character tends to defy the odds anyway, so it wouldn't work very well.
Originally posted by S121
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10/22/2013, 07:38 PM #16989
@S121
Also, if you liked that battle then I think you'll love the final Ansem battle, World of Chaos.
Also, if you liked that battle then I think you'll love the final Ansem battle, World of Chaos.
| Born in the light.
Molded in the dark. Never Forget, Keep Fighting. |
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Don't Forget.
Always, somewhere,
someone is fighting for you.
As long as you remember her,
you are not alone.
|
10/22/2013, 07:40 PM #16990
Right...again.
But let's look at my perspective:
I have
Two medieval characters: Morgan and one other (Most likely Severa)
One normal human sniper/assassin: Eleos
And...ok I got one goddess: Lady Palutena, but still...her powers are...vague yet limited at the same time.
Now specifically:
Let's look at say, Eleos VS Six.
Regular guns VS Spartan Armor
No armor VS Spartan Lasers and w/e else
slightly better than Human reflex VS Spartan Reflex
In a straight up fire-fight, Eleos is doomed.
That's more what I'm worried about.
And I can't think of any possible way of making him match something like that without completely changing who he is.
But let's look at my perspective:
I have
Two medieval characters: Morgan and one other (Most likely Severa)
One normal human sniper/assassin: Eleos
And...ok I got one goddess: Lady Palutena, but still...her powers are...vague yet limited at the same time.
Now specifically:
Let's look at say, Eleos VS Six.
Regular guns VS Spartan Armor
No armor VS Spartan Lasers and w/e else
slightly better than Human reflex VS Spartan Reflex
In a straight up fire-fight, Eleos is doomed.
That's more what I'm worried about.
And I can't think of any possible way of making him match something like that without completely changing who he is.
10/22/2013, 07:45 PM #16991
@Katrix
I have a feeling John and Ansem will have a battle like this in the second season.:p
He is still in John's mind, and John still has yet to get rid of him. This battle should be harder for John and really stretch his limits.
I also love the song.:p
@SUSTIC
Try daydreaming. That's how I come up with ideas.:p
Last edited by S121; 10/22/2013, 07:52 PM. I have a feeling John and Ansem will have a battle like this in the second season.:p
He is still in John's mind, and John still has yet to get rid of him. This battle should be harder for John and really stretch his limits.
I also love the song.:p
@SUSTIC
Try daydreaming. That's how I come up with ideas.:p
Originally posted by S121
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