So I heard you guys banned someone without a ban appeal

mamizou

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10/17/2014, 12:53 AM #1
Disclaimer: This post will be biased as I have yet to hear the staff side of this thing

Okay, although I am no longer part of your community, a little birdy told me that a certain someone banned someone else for ero rp without a proper ban appeal. As much as I fucking hate the roleplaying community in Yukkuricraft, it isn't OKAY to ban someone for ero roleplaying without giving them a chance to appeal. What makes this more disgusting is that the person was Erotic Roleplaying WITH a staff member. First of all, to that staff member, WHY didn't you tell the person not to do it? If so, did you make sure that person actually GOT the warnings? I understand that role playing in general makes you focused on you know, roleplaying, so you need to make sure you actually capture their attention. However, it is NOT fucking okay to play along with it and then the other person to ban you.

I also heard that the person who banned that guy thought that the police will fucking come and close the server because of some erotic rp(Can't confirm, so you can ignore the following part). Here's the message to that guy, ARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED!? Like, first of all, that stupid shit alone shouldn't be fucking tolerated, have a fucking skull. Also, how fucking stubborn do you have to be to ban this person without a ban appeal. Like, even though I fucking hate Yukkuricraft Roleplay, even I wouldn't do shit so stupid and exploitative of my own power under my own paranoia to do a stupid shit like that.

To allow this conversation to be more civilized instead of ending in a ball of flames and/or into a hugbox, please excuse my foul language, as I can't take idiotic things like those that some people do, and to actually discuss certain issues within the administration. Although this server is horrible in my honest opinion, I don't want this server to die because of some bad decisions that idiots with power have.
Kristia

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10/17/2014, 01:06 AM #2
so in short words

A player and a staff member role played erotically in the server and the staff member banned the player without a ban appeal?

If this actually happened (which I hope there is a good explanation about) then the staff member needs to talk with the others because that is acting like it was all ok and then stab the player on the back with a ban.

Seriously, if you people want to do stuff like that, there are other chat room, websites, you name it, created for that. The Role Playing community is already trying to be clean and without issues here on the forum.

Have you ever crossed the line between sanity and madness? You would be amazed by what lies beyond the fog..

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mamizou

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10/17/2014, 01:12 AM #3
Kristia:
Actually, the person who was roleplaying with him didn't ban him but someone else has (and I know who it is, just omitted the name of the people involved). As I said, I'm here just to vent a bit of anger and get both sides of the story. Also, I really don't want this server to die just yet, I still have some friends that are on this server. So yeah, I find this server needs to be slightly more mature and tolerant to the players and members of this community.
Kristia

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10/17/2014, 01:18 AM #4
The point still stands, Whoever that staff member is should at least talk and not leave the banned player because the real loser at the moment is the player. I don´t know the exact rules of the server, but three just were broken for what I see

1.- Adult situations in a general server
2.-Banning without an actual appeal or procedure
3.-Server staff member either abuses of his/her status or is "protected" to stay without punishment

Have you ever crossed the line between sanity and madness? You would be amazed by what lies beyond the fog..

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Tewi_Inaba

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10/17/2014, 01:33 AM #5
@ mami The staff member the player erped with DID tell him to stop and he was given warnings from both that staff member as well as phantome and a few others. Not to mention don't ero rp IS one of the rules in the quiz.

he ignored the warnings the staff gave him and that's why he got banned.

Krittercon

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10/17/2014, 01:35 AM #6
Quick response since I'm not at my PC right now. These are what I know assuming I'm thinking of the right person (There's only two recorded recent cases anyway):
1. Banned user did not ero-RP with a staff member (in that a staff member did not engage or respond to them with it). If you have more info on it. We would like to know.
2. User was warned multiple times in the past regarding the issue.
3. Case that caused the ban was reported by a different non-staff user.
4. One staff member did witness a server take-down in the past, as such we do take the issue seriously
Last edited by Krittercon; 10/17/2014, 01:38 AM.

mamizou

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10/17/2014, 01:41 AM #7
Tewi:

And that's why I said that sometimes you need to make sure the person is actually paying attention. Also, yes, he should've get banned. However, there are these things called temporary bans and kicks. What I completely disagree with is that the person didn't have a chance a ban appeal. You guys are doing this out of your free will, your not getting payed and we are all humans, players, and members of this community. Just because you are a higher ranked, it still doesn't give you the right to perma ban someone with no way to appeal. Also, I've been told that the guy only received one message to tone it down, and that was their partner in the roleplay. I hope neither the staff or the person who told me this issue are lying.
Last edited by mamizou; 10/17/2014, 10:56 PM.
Tewi_Inaba

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10/17/2014, 01:52 AM #8
I know for a fact phantome talked to him as well because he did it right after i complained about him trying to ero with me. You can't get much clearer than telling somone to stop erping. If they don't understand something as black and white as that you can't really help them.

The reason the ban was made non appealable was because he came on with an alt after he was banned which is ban evading. If he hadn't done that i would have personaly stood up and said the ban should have been appealable but when he did that, he ruined any chance he had. That being said having a non appealable ban dosn't mean you can't appeal anyway. For example we recently unbanned Zemo. He came back after a long time and showed that he had grown up and wanted to make amends so we're giving him another chance.

Edit: for future reference it might be better if you asked me first before making a post like this. Once you've gotten the full story if you still feel the need to rant then that's fine. Just don't want a big shit storm to happen :)
Last edited by Tewi_Inaba; 10/17/2014, 01:58 AM.
Krittercon

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10/17/2014, 01:57 AM #9
May I also add that it was a group decision. So it wasn't just one person who made the decision to ban.

Shimitty

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10/17/2014, 02:38 AM #10
You know It would be nice if you just calmly asked us to clarify the situation before making instant assumptions based on your own bias against us, and then trying to call us out on what you believe happened. Of course the intention wasn't to clarify whether or not you had all the facts, If I didn't know any better, I'd say you didn't ask what really happened, you told us what really happened. I mean, we all know gossip is the most reliable form of information!

You said yourself that you hate us, and what would be better than showing the whole community how corrupt, hypocritical, and stupid the staff is! I mean I know I'm making assumptions and making a confrontational post, but this is tame compared to the OP.

Also about the guy, like Tewi and Kritter said, he had been warned around FIVE TIMES. Five damn times and he still didn't get it. Not to mention the chat logs are a pretty uncomfortable read. And then he comes on with an alt and tried to do it all over again! Heck, you should be mad we didn't toss him out sooner.

As for the whole "server getting shut down by the feds" the amount of people worried about that happening would be one, and he didn't deliver the ban.

I'm trying to be as civilized as I can be right now, but when you go and make a confrontational post like that without much backing, I feel this is fair game.


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