Over Kill?

[Jaeyjay]

Use one of these for your primary harddrive for the operating system and essential programs
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...GB%20-%20128GB
An SSD, Solid-State Drive, in simplest terms is just another type of hard drive, except there are no moving parts like the disks in more common harddrives. Because of this, it is quieter and also much faster than normal HDDs. Using an SSD drastically decreases the bootup time of anything that you keep on there. For example, if it takes your computer 20 seconds to startup on an HDD, it will only take 5 seconds on an SSD. However, SSDs are easily multiple times more expensive than a HDD. This is why it is usually best to keep a small SSD for the more essential things and keep the rest on a much larger HDD.

[Worstcase]

Get a i5-3XXX
8 GBs of RAM clocked at 1333 or better
550W PSU (might need more if it's a Radeon GPU)
1 TB Black HDD
Z77 socket Mobo (ideally with SATA 6 for HDD, but it should be standard anywho)
Either a GTX 6XX or a Radeon 7XXX

[Remilia Scarlet]

Guys, remember she's looking for a prebuilt one as she doesn't want to risk messing up while building it. Actually, on that thought anyone know of companies that build a pc for you and ship it? That might be another viable option to get the right combination of hardware she needs and not pay a ridiculous price or pay extra for stuff she doesn't need.

[Tewi_Inaba]

Oh 8 gigs of ram is almost access ram! hehe i still don't know anything about graphics cards processors. that's why i come here for nerd help! the SSD drives and stuff i saw on that page look good but like... is it the whole computer or just part of it? If it's really THAT much cheaper without sacrificing the quality i have an uncle who repairs computers for a living. I mite swollow my pride and ask him for help.

[Sodamachine]

how much cheaper to custombuild?
I would say on avarage 25%.
some cheaper, some more expensive.

[Worstcase]

Guys, remember she's looking for a prebuilt one as she doesn't want to risk messing up while building it. Actually, on that thought anyone know of companies that build a pc for you and ship it? That might be another viable option to get the right combination of hardware she needs and not pay a ridiculous price or pay extra for stuff she doesn't need.

To be honest there aren't too many good places you can buy computers from that I would call 'balanced' in their hardware - they have a bad tendency of choosing i7s which is wasteful more so than anything. Fewer yet still that offer good customization options for the consumer. IBuyPower might be an alright bet here, but I haven't looked so I can't be sure, a solid computer shouldn't cost more than a 1000 (before monitor).

By the way my goal wasa computer that could run minecraft with a 512 by 512 texturepack with shaders on extream render distance and the highest posible settings with 100+ fps while listening to music and running mumble skyp and chrome all at the same time all with no lag. to be fare i was looking for something a little overpowered XD

Just to be clear on this. To have a computer of that magnitude is extremely powerful. To put in perspective, the sheer amount of power you would need (because of how incredibly, ridiculously power hungry Minecraft is/can be), there wouldn't be a computer game on this wide earth that could take advantage of it all. It would costs a massive amount of money, and run extremely hot even by enthusiast computer standards.

Oh 8 gigs of ram is almost access ram! hehe i still don't know anything about graphics cards processors. that's why i come here for nerd help! the SSD drives and stuff i saw on that page look good but like... is it the whole computer or just part of it? If it's really THAT much cheaper without sacrificing the quality i have an uncle who repairs computers for a living. I mite swollow my pride and ask him for help.

It can be a pretty hefty decrease in cost, particularly if you live in the US/Canada where you have access to Newegg. If you can get it custom built, that would be the ideal route to go. This way you can control exactly what you get without any unnecessary extras that you may/may not want or even know about.

[Tewi_Inaba]

It can be a pretty hefty decrease in cost, particularly if you live in the US/Canada where you have access to Newegg. If you can get it custom built, that would be the ideal route to go. This way you can control exactly what you get without any unnecessary extras that you may/may not want or even know about.[/QUOTE]

lovely <3 i'll try and do that then but uhh just to get me started could you help me pick out the right parts for the computer? I'll get help putting them together.

I need a good graphics card and possessor and i would like to avoid bad software that's either very insignificant or over-complicated or both. at least 8 GB of ram so i can play games while listening to music and not lag half to death. not sure how much memory i need but i download lots of games photos and programs and i would really hate running out of memory. the only other thing i can think of that i would really need is a good cooling system. the one in my old laptop broke and i had to play games in front of the air conditioner to keep it from over heater.... never..... again....... I would also really prefer one that don't make a lot of noise. and i want it to look nice since my computer's in my room but the last two aren't very important.... but they would be very appreciated. I don't mind splurging a little when buying the parts because i am aiming for my dream computer.

Oh and i don't know how making a computer works at all so does it require a lot of coding? if so them i'm screwed!

[Worstcase]

lovely <3 i'll try and do that then but uhh just to get me started could you help me pick out the right parts for the computer? I'll get help putting them together.

I need a good graphics card and possessor and i would like to avoid bad software that's either very insignificant or over-complicated or both. at least 8 GB of ram so i can play games while listening to music and not lag half to death. not sure how much memory i need but i download lots of games photos and programs and i would really hate running out of memory. the only other thing i can think of that i would really need is a good cooling system. the one in my old laptop broke and i had to play games in front of the air conditioner to keep it from over heater.... never..... again....... I would also really prefer one that don't make a lot of noise. and i want it to look nice since my computer's in my room but the last two aren't very important.... but they would be very appreciated. I don't mind splurging a little when buying the parts because i am aiming for my dream computer.

Oh and i don't know how making a computer works at all so does it require a lot of coding? if so them i'm screwed!

8 GBs of RAM is pretty much all you need, anything past that is just excess capacity that will likely never get used.

Cooling would be handled by the desktop case which is to say, a closed system with a strict number of intake/outtake fans. It might not sound exotic, but it definitely works for all but the most ridiculously enthusiastic builds. The worst your computer should emit in terms of sound is a semi-low hum of fans, and in start up you'll likely hear a beeping or two from the motherboard. As for looks though, that's largely what causes computer cases to go up in price unfortunately.

No coding required, contrary to popular belief building a computer is pretty simple. It's mostly just putting the right hardware pieces together and plugging them in accordingly. Installing the OS is likely the closest you'll ever get to coding, and even then it's easy.

With that said, the only other things that need to be known are: do you need/want a new monitor (and if so, what size), do you need/want a keyboard/mouse, can you get a direct connection to your internet router or does it need to be wireless, and what kind of budget do you have to work with roughly?

[WriggleRid3r]

There is an Ex-Starcraft pro named Destiny who is building himself a new computer that will allow him to stream and play at the same time. He streams on twitch, you might want to check the specs of the computer he's making.

Other than that, I don't know jack shit xD

[Remilia Scarlet]

Streaming and playing doesn't take much so long as you have a higher-end gpu and cpu. I was able to stream Living Dead at full specs with no frame lag with my specs

AMD A10 5800k
Radeon 2gb 7950
16gb ram (I actually use it for music/video stuff)

That being said, think of building a computer as just a really expensive set of legos. You get the parts, you click them together, connect some wires, power the thing up, voila. Just install the OS and you're good to go.

[Fettman501]

I just use an Acer laptop with Intel Core i3-2330M (2.2GHz, 3MB L3 cache) and Intel HD Graphics 3000 with mild to moderate settings ingame doing all the above and more; the only problem is when Time Warner network frequently disconnects and reconnects me to the internet (as much as three times a minute) which I have to fix every few weeks. I don't know a lot about computers but I think I'm doing good, disregarding Time Warner issues, considering it's not a gaming laptop by any means.

[Tewi_Inaba]

8 GBs of RAM is pretty much all you need, anything past that is just excess capacity that will likely never get used.
With that said, the only other things that need to be known are: do you need/want a new monitor (and if so, what size), do you need/want a keyboard/mouse, can you get a direct connection to your internet router or does it need to be wireless, and what kind of budget do you have to work with roughly?

Streaming and playing doesn't take much so long as you have a higher-end gpu and cpu. I was able to stream Living Dead at full specs with no frame lag with my specs

AMD A10 5800k
Radeon 2gb 7950
16gb ram (I actually use it for music/video stuff)

That being said, think of building a computer as just a really expensive set of legos. You get the parts, you click them together, connect some wires, power the thing up, voila. Just install the OS and you're good to go.

I do not need a new mouse, monitor or keyboard and i already have a direct connection. I'll set my budget at $1300 since i don't mind splurging a little but at the same time i don't want to pay for anything i don't need o even want. My biggest problem right now is finding said leggos and putting them together. you have any links or websites to the parts i need? i honestly don't know what all i need but if i find the parts i can get/beg my uncle to put them together.

[Remilia Scarlet]

Http://newegg.com

Also, I doubt you need even $1300

My whole setup without my double 24" monitors, keyboard, an mouse is only about $900. And remember, I have a pretty damn good build. Haven't had a game I can't run on ultimate graphics. Or stream with high/ultimate

Guve me in one concise post exactly what you want. I'll ask my pc builder friend for a few configurations and give you pcpartpicker links to make the ordering very easy. (Pcpartpicker is a website that lets you pick parts for comps and gives you the best online retailers to buy from to get the best prices)

[Tewi_Inaba]

Http://newegg.com

Also, I doubt you need even $1300

My whole setup without my double 24" monitors, keyboard, an mouse is only about $900. And remember, I have a pretty damn good build. Haven't had a game I can't run on ultimate graphics. Or stream with high/ultimate



Guve me in one concise post exactly what you want. I'll ask my pc builder friend for a few configurations and give you pcpartpicker links to make the ordering very easy. (Pcpartpicker is a website that lets you pick parts for comps and gives you the best online retailers to buy from to get the best prices)

really only around $900? Would you care if i bought the same or at least similar parts to what you got? i took one look at the page you linked me and it wa s like trying to read a fouren language. i had no idea what most of the parts were or what they did hehe mm as for what i want on it windows 7 would be nice since it's a lot more harmless than all the other computers i know about (wundows 8 coff coff vista coff mac coff coff) and solid state drive since i hear that make computers a lot less noisey.hehe see i don't know much but i'm learning. I don't need any mouse, keyboard, monitor, speakers or anyhting lse other then the computer it'self. I have pretty awsome speakers as it is and i wouldn't know what to do with 2 monitors, nor would i have room for a second one. erm if you need anymore information i'll do my best to answer but i really have no idea what i'm doing.

[Worstcase]

CPU - Intel Core i5-3470 Ivy Bridge 3.2GHz
GPU - EVGA GTX 650 Ti BOOST
RAM - Ripjaws 8 GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600
Mobo - P8Z77-V LK LGA 1155 Intel Z77 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
PSU - CORSAIR 600W ATX12V 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
Case - Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower
OS - Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit

$200
$175
$65
$125 (105)
$80
$80
$100
Total: $825 (805)

Only a couple questions left:
-What kind of Hard drive do you want for storage? Is 500 GBs of storage enough, or would something along the lines of 1 TB (1000 GBs) be more ideal?
-Is that case sufficient for looks? I have the same case and airflow for it is quite effective.
-What kind of OS do you want? I used Windows 7 as staple but you can also get Windows 8 for the exact same price. I don't want to get into a stupid argument over which is better, there are advantages to both. If you want your computer to run better Windows 8 is preferable, but if learning W8 puts you off then maybe W7 would be better. Whichever way you choose, both OS's are great imo.
-Do you do things along the line of music/video rendering like Remi mentioned?

Hopefully the guy who's building this knows how to properly manage modular PSUs, choose/update BIOS correctly, etc.