[OOC Board] Eternal Galaxy: Phoenix

Kilelicus

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03/23/2015, 08:08 PM #691
So I'm sure I'm not the only one who's solved the block puzzle but here's this.
In fact, it can be done much faster than this, I just wasnt thinking that hard when I made it.
The only thing that this solution requires is the ability to pull the blocks but I dont think we can so I think I'll have to rework this

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EDIT: Cicero says only pushing. I'll have to take another look at this.
Last edited by Kilelicus; 03/23/2015, 08:10 PM.
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Kristia

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03/23/2015, 08:12 PM #692
I was also breaking my brain with the puzzle and even thought of pulling the blocks, but it can´t be done

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Zekai

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03/23/2015, 08:25 PM #693
I never understand these pictures.

"No matter how strong or what power the enemy has, I will fight and protect my friends, even if it cost me my life to protect them. I will fight until I die to ensure their future."
Kilelicus

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03/23/2015, 08:29 PM #694
So the constraints are as follows

The blocks slide.
They must hit a wall or block to stop.
They must be pushed.

I'm questioning the actual simplicity of this puzzle, though at the same time I feel like the answer is right in front of my face.

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Cucoo5

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03/23/2015, 08:33 PM #695
it helps to print it and cut it out on paper.

it is stupidly simple once you see the trick to it. Doesn't help the fact that I believe this puzzle actually exists in one of the Zelda games...
...I believe it was LoZ: TP...

Zekai

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03/23/2015, 08:34 PM #696
I know in Orcarina of Time, there's something like that in an ice cave for the Iron Boots.

"No matter how strong or what power the enemy has, I will fight and protect my friends, even if it cost me my life to protect them. I will fight until I die to ensure their future."
Cucoo5

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03/23/2015, 08:36 PM #697
alot of zelda games had these ice block puzzles

and I was sort of right...
TP has a "simpler" version where there's just a switch in the center and 3 blocks in a 5x5 grid.

Kilelicus

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03/23/2015, 09:07 PM #698
There exist block puzzles in both games of this persuasion. However in those puzzles, there is one switch to three blocks, or obstructions to help guide the blocks. I see no way of actually completing this puzzle with the given constraints. Allow me to explain.



The yellow/gray block here cannot move ANYWHERE until the gray/yellow inhabits that middle position, or else you will never get another one there, or in any of the places around the center. It it simply cannot happen, due to the sliding nature of the blocks. No matter how you twist it, they will never stop there. This is also going off of the assumption that we can only move one at a time. If we could move multiple at once, it would break the puzzle and we may as well have Phenom and Bardock stopping the blocks wherever they need to be stopped.
Once that middle block is filled the unused centerblock can only go to one of two places, since it cannot be pulled.. (See pictures 2 and 3 from my "Solution" post.)

From there, it is stuck. It is no longer a useful block. It is simply in the way.

Even if you inch your way around, you still end up with a dilemma of "I need this block to be here so I can fill this last switch but there's no way to move it there" like this



EDIT: The issue with this puzzle is that as you move forward, you make it more and more impossible to progress.
Last edited by Kilelicus; 03/23/2015, 09:13 PM.
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Kilelicus

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03/23/2015, 09:40 PM #699
Hopefully you guys can follow this. I'm running low on time, so I cant really do anything more detailed than this atm









EDIT: Apologies for the triple double posting
EDIT2: I have just noticed I moved the purple block down one when there was nothing there, Just pretend that that happened before the red block moved.
Last edited by Kilelicus; 03/23/2015, 09:46 PM.
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Cucoo5

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03/24/2015, 01:14 AM #700
I did something similar to that when I solved it in 30 seconds and immediately forgotten what I had done because I thought it was stupidly simple when I did it.
So there is another solution, but for now we'll go with yours since you got it recorded.

EDIT:
- Crosspost -

Also I want feedback on the whole situation in EG

...Starting with the Shrine of Seasons in EG.
Right now we are going through another puzzle which will be initialized after SUStic posts allowing me to properly respond with the Umbra girl. We'll be making IC posts of the characters solving the puzzle, and then we proceed to the next room where we'll have a mini-boss fight with the Guardians of the Shrine.

I'll post details accordingly in OOC when we come to it.

Next is the three Nymph sisters which will be in the Shrine. For the sake of time and story... I will abbreviate this part accordingly so that we should hopefully be done with it sooner than later, regardless of any hold ups.

The hope is that once Ignis is reached then I'll be able to help push things along on that front.

Next is Nevaraas, which I will be throwing in a situation on once the Nihiliods are awoken on Alcyon.

Finally is Dua/Duon stuff which I will start to abbreviate a bit so that we can progress to new stuff.