I guess what you've said makes sense, although since IC2 and RF mods are both Technology mods, should they really be considered separate?
Sorry if it seems like I'm trying to push the issue too much, I've just always been fond of the hands-on, more detailed weapon-making system of TCon. Minecraft weapon-making is just lacking to me, I guess; when all I do to make a sword is put metal and sticks into a table it doesn't feel like I've done much, but with TCon tools the work I do to make tools makes them feel more special to me. As I said before though, the choice to add or not is yours to make, not mine; all I can do is respect your decision and understand that you have your reasons.
Also, Katrix, in an earlier post you said "TContruct: Can be kind of OP. Convince me". I guess I may have taken that as a challenge; sorry if I came across as hard-headed at any point. If I haven't conviced you yet, there's nothing else I can do.
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01/25/2015, 02:16 AM #102
This is the moment where we should ask ourselves - How it is to be the Admin of a modded server?-
Okno, still, I think that is not OP is just a little bit less longer than mods like IC2-Gravisuit, Thaumcraft-Thaumic Tinkerer and Thermal Expansion-Redstone Arsenal and that in fact is the reason why people want it so much, because even though u can customize your work you can do bigger and better things, and still, the thing is not about ores, because you can easily set an Ender Quarry that does all the work for you and then puts it into your ME system, but it adds the sense of customization and the fact that there are no OP items (because the best item is not a Full-Steel Hammer) but that you can give your touch to the weapons, through the techy or through the magic way.
Okno, still, I think that is not OP is just a little bit less longer than mods like IC2-Gravisuit, Thaumcraft-Thaumic Tinkerer and Thermal Expansion-Redstone Arsenal and that in fact is the reason why people want it so much, because even though u can customize your work you can do bigger and better things, and still, the thing is not about ores, because you can easily set an Ender Quarry that does all the work for you and then puts it into your ME system, but it adds the sense of customization and the fact that there are no OP items (because the best item is not a Full-Steel Hammer) but that you can give your touch to the weapons, through the techy or through the magic way.
Sometimes you have to accept the fact that certain things will never go back to how they used to be.
01/25/2015, 02:28 AM #103
@Both of you
Read what I wrote again, I listed the 3 main mods focuses in RTY 2.0. Not where to get tools, but what mods you basically have to do in RTY 2.0. It's true that there are other tools around there that doesn't come from those mods. Maybe you got a pickaxe from Twilight Forest, a useful tool from The End or a powerful magical artifact from Blood Magic. That's not what I focus on here. In this case I ask, how long will this mod follow you and how much will you interact with it. These mods are what you might call main atraction mods. They add the flesh to the modpack. Then there are mods like Bibliocraft, OpenBlocks, Ehanched Portals, Natura, Carpenters Blocks and others that add in something very specific. They are usually smaller mods that you might visit from time to time, but they are not the main attraction. These are what you might call side attraction mods. What is very important here is that the side attraction mods don't keep mostly for themselves. They are completely fine with giving you a alternate tool from time to time, but they shouldn't try to take over a part of one of the main attraction mods. I consider TiC such a mod, and I also consider it as trying to take over from other mods.
As for more interesting weapons, it MIGHT be that SOMETIMES in the future, you might for example get a shield or a spear for cleaing a quest for SOMEONE. In generalness tough, I try to solve this by giving you several options in tools. Do you want a drill or a magic picaxe, do you want the faster drill, or the one with Fortune 3 on it? Believe me, there is not just one go to tool, you have to choose that yourself.
@Nick
They might not be as OP as those tools and armours, but then there is also the fact that you don't need 1 or more Nether stars per piece. Each piece of Ichor requires one Nether star. Same for Iridium Plates.
Last edited by Katrix; 01/25/2015, 02:31 AM. Read what I wrote again, I listed the 3 main mods focuses in RTY 2.0. Not where to get tools, but what mods you basically have to do in RTY 2.0. It's true that there are other tools around there that doesn't come from those mods. Maybe you got a pickaxe from Twilight Forest, a useful tool from The End or a powerful magical artifact from Blood Magic. That's not what I focus on here. In this case I ask, how long will this mod follow you and how much will you interact with it. These mods are what you might call main atraction mods. They add the flesh to the modpack. Then there are mods like Bibliocraft, OpenBlocks, Ehanched Portals, Natura, Carpenters Blocks and others that add in something very specific. They are usually smaller mods that you might visit from time to time, but they are not the main attraction. These are what you might call side attraction mods. What is very important here is that the side attraction mods don't keep mostly for themselves. They are completely fine with giving you a alternate tool from time to time, but they shouldn't try to take over a part of one of the main attraction mods. I consider TiC such a mod, and I also consider it as trying to take over from other mods.
As for more interesting weapons, it MIGHT be that SOMETIMES in the future, you might for example get a shield or a spear for cleaing a quest for SOMEONE. In generalness tough, I try to solve this by giving you several options in tools. Do you want a drill or a magic picaxe, do you want the faster drill, or the one with Fortune 3 on it? Believe me, there is not just one go to tool, you have to choose that yourself.
@Nick
They might not be as OP as those tools and armours, but then there is also the fact that you don't need 1 or more Nether stars per piece. Each piece of Ichor requires one Nether star. Same for Iridium Plates.
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01/25/2015, 02:30 AM #104
Well, nothing else to say here, let's wrap up and wait until the pack is ready.
Sometimes you have to accept the fact that certain things will never go back to how they used to be.
01/25/2015, 02:34 AM #105
Oh, now I see what you mean. Yeah, I suppose TCon does sort of demand attention.
On another subject, what's your opinion on [REDACTED]?
[Edit] Forget I said anything, Magical Crops is a grindy pain in the rear I'd rather not deal with.
Last edited by BenjiPM; 01/25/2015, 02:42 AM. On another subject, what's your opinion on [REDACTED]?
[Edit] Forget I said anything, Magical Crops is a grindy pain in the rear I'd rather not deal with.
01/25/2015, 02:34 AM #106
RTY 2.0
Emmm no, just no, I don't think there is any reason/way that MC is added
EDIT7:67273628622: Did u finally added Botania?
Emmm no, just no, I don't think there is any reason/way that MC is added
EDIT7:67273628622: Did u finally added Botania?
Sometimes you have to accept the fact that certain things will never go back to how they used to be.
01/25/2015, 02:50 AM #107
@Nick
Botania is in and is unlikely to fall out again.
Botania is in and is unlikely to fall out again.
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Molded in the dark. Never Forget, Keep Fighting. |
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Don't Forget.
Always, somewhere,
someone is fighting for you.
As long as you remember her,
you are not alone.
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01/25/2015, 02:52 AM #108
Aw really?, two things:
1. YEAAAA, I knew you would like the magic of plants.
2. Why is it falling out?
1. YEAAAA, I knew you would like the magic of plants.
2. Why is it falling out?
Sometimes you have to accept the fact that certain things will never go back to how they used to be.
02/12/2015, 09:34 AM #109
Originally posted by BenjiPM
Oh, now I see what you mean. Yeah, I suppose TCon does sort of demand attention.
On another subject, what's your opinion on [REDACTED]?
[Edit] Forget I said anything, Magical Crops is a grindy pain in the rear I'd rather not deal with.
hey whats that add-on to T-con?
the one where you need to level up your tools?
the one where you need flint cactis bone or paper
02/12/2015, 10:41 AM #110
Well, I was talking about 2 of them specifically, TMechworks which is the one with the drawbridges and such and TiC Tweaks which is the one with the flint and cacti trick.
But, as Katrix and Benji said that is not going to be added to the pack because of its big focusing.
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But, as Katrix and Benji said that is not going to be added to the pack because of its big focusing.
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Sometimes you have to accept the fact that certain things will never go back to how they used to be.