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  • Cucoo5
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    For Starla, just need to figure out how to set up something similar for her history in Shinka. That can go back to the RP threads.
    Meanwhile, Let's talk Nemesis.

    Now I can use a lot about her from Iron Storm and Shinka Knights RPs.

    And to summarize a bit...
    Nemesis is to Aion as Cortana is to John.
    Starla adapts Nemesis from android form to help Aion after she learns that he had been flying Eclipse Blade without an AI.

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  • S121
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    @Cucoo

    Awesome.

    So, what other things do we need to work out with her? Did we miss something?

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  • Cucoo5
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    Yeah, I kinda ninja edited in the answer to that.

    Space Colony. She grew up in a Space Colony in the Egale System.
    It would support everything you just pointed out as possibilities and would work magnificently.

    And it would work for Shinka too

    Replace Nihiliods with Tainted, say she's been away working on these projects and then she finally goes back aaaaand finds out her home was ravaged by Tainted.
    Boom. origin story complete.

    AFTER 6 GOD DAMN YEARS, STARLA IS FINALLY COMPLETE.
    Last edited by Cucoo5; 12-03-2014, 01:58 AM.

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  • S121
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    @Cucoo

    Where does her race primarily reside? Which place is the most scientifically advanced?

    As a second question, what if she's a drifter of sorts when it comes to a home, choosing to go where the science is?

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  • Cucoo5
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    That's what I'm starting to think. It would give her all the motives in the world...

    And this is what I find funny...
    Here's a character so concerned about the present and the future, her past is lacking.

    Present day motives? check.
    Overly concerned about future due to visions? check
    Origin story that goes all the way back to who she was before any of this?
    ...not quite check...

    If I had to summarize the main 6 characters of EG

    Aion, a nobleman who then was reincarnated as a mercenary who then returned to being the Master of Time.
    Joe, a mercenary who helped Aion's reincarnation get settled in. Had family issues and keeps his little sister Terrisa close.
    Terrisa, mechanic who is carefree and loves to help her older brother and befriends anyone. Doesn't know about the family issues as Joe is keeping it from her.
    Kiara, once just a water nymph living peacefully before the war hit home. Then becomes a medic in an attempt to learn how to cure those that are infected by Nihiliods.
    Eleos, originally a guard of the Senari Republic who turned elite marksman just before its fall.

    And then Starla is the sixth.
    Originally she was of the original four characters before I created Kiara and Eleos.
    She is now the last of the six to finally get her origin story set. The others have theirs which pretty much leads straight into how they became what they are...
    Starla...
    Her present is set so perfectly... she just doesn't have a past...
    I actually don't know what's her home planet.

    Aion, despite being born on Nox, hails from Dua
    Joe and Terrisa, Duon
    Kiara, Alcyon
    Eleos, Egale

    And the thing is, I can't imagine Starla coming from any of these planets or even the others.
    She's around before Eleos, which would put her arriving in Celestora system... which would mean Alcyon.... but... Alcyon is not exactly technological...
    Actually maybe she arrives after Eleos...
    ... But then that would mean Nemesis comes after Eleos and thus wouldn't be around when the Nihiliod encounter occurs in the "Lost Princess" passage...
    ...
    And there's my second problem. I don't know where to put her...
    ...


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    Space colony in Egale system.
    fucking hell that makes so much sense.

    1) It's a lot of tech. And it's "near" the Nihiliods Quarantine (in terms of being in the same solar system.) If she grew up in fear of Nihiliods... that would shape her and cause her to be extra motivated to create the Daedalus Project. Cause it's personal.

    2) She then makes Nemesis because she wants to have something help protect her home colony.

    3) She could have gone back to her home to find it attacked by Nihiliods. Could be the scene I've been thinking about before they go to Senarious. She could have been in a transport that was attacked and that's how she meets up with the group. This scene would be before she arrives home.

    Ok there it is.
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  • S121
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    @Cucoo

    Ok, so she created Nemesis to be both a weapon and a person, right?

    Waaiiit... What if she intended Nemesis to be a weapon against the Tainted and to eventually develop into a person, but Ragnarok begins using her to wipe out the Infecta, as well as stunting her growth as a person by treating her as just a weapon, teaching her that she is only a weapon.

    What are your thoughts on that?


    Also, the first project idea sounds good to me. It adds something extra for the future.

    In the end, it all comes down to Ragnarok abusing her creations.
    Last edited by S121; 12-03-2014, 01:24 AM.

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  • Cucoo5
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    In terms of EG:
    Originally she became a scientist in an attempt to develop something to wipe out Nihiliods. When she helped make the Daedalus Project, she probably became worried about what would happen with it when it fell into NGO control. Nemesis was her second project and experiment to create something that would be effective against Nihiliods but independent of control while retaining morals and therefore would not just be a weapon.

    In terms of Shinka...
    ...Maybe she helped design a super weapon that is still being built and then she went on to Nemesis for similar reasons as above...

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  • S121
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    @Cucoo

    Hmm...

    Well for what reasons did she become a scientist? What did she hope to accomplish by becoming a scientist?

    Either that, or the Stella race in Shinka has visions too. Do they?

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  • Cucoo5
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    Originally posted by S121 View Post
    I think the thought I'm trying to get across is, what if she honestly doesn't know what to think when it comes to the whole war?

    As an alternate possibility, what if what she means about "figuring things out for herself" is that she feels as if she is on the wrong path, that where she is now us not quite what she had imagined or hoped for herself in the past? What if she is confused or lost on where her life is going and wants a way to stand back and try to figure things out, try to find where things went wrong? She is uncertain who she wants to become.
    I think this would work for both Shinka and EG.
    because in terms of EG (hence why I brought the conversation here) She took part in the creation of the Daedalus Project. Uncertainty pretty much rules the Galaxy...
    ...and maybe...
    ...Ok it just clicked.
    To add more depth to it, she could be extraordinarily confused because of her visions. She might have been frightened by the things she saw and, when her time came to try and unlock the Praemoneres in her mind, she refused. For a long time, unlike other Vatians, she was uncertain about what her version of the future told. She was afraid to look. Yet it kept haunting her. She saw something... and she's trying to forget. And she's afraid that unlocking her mind would make it all the clearer and even harder to forget.

    She had a vision where the thought itself is empty. She's terrified of that.
    She wants to forget about the thought that doesn't exist. She's worried that it will consume her....

    Now how this could translate to Shinka... not 100% certain...

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  • S121
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    @Cucoo

    Hmm...

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    What if she had an encounter with the Infecta? What if she was either spared by an Infecta, or encountered an unarmed and helpless Infecta? It might cause her to question the things that Ragnarok says about them.

    I think the thought I'm trying to get across is, what if she honestly doesn't know what to think when it comes to the whole war?

    As an alternate possibility, what if what she means about "figuring things out for herself" is that she feels as if she is on the wrong path, that where she is now us not quite what she had imagined or hoped for herself in the past? What if she is confused or lost on where her life is going and wants a way to stand back and try to figure things out, try to find where things went wrong? She is uncertain who she wants to become.

    What are your thoughts?

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  • Cucoo5
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    Right... so that explains the Nova Engine and thus the capabilities of Shields in that regard as well as how Gaia Energy works with Corlaviri Crystals.

    Anyway I'm going to direct things back to characters for a moment... cause I realized that this is sorta a big deal for how I work with characters.

    Starla's origin story.
    non-existent.
    Once upon a time ago before I decided to scrap the idea because I wasn't feeling it.... I Had something similar to Star Trek with a planet going poof much like with Vulcan. Had Aion be a part of the evacuation crew that found Starla staring blankly curled up by some rubble. Didn't click for me and still doesn't.

    Joking thought just came to mind (because somehow I was going to make this a possibility just to make things interesting...) For some reason I wanted to tie the destruction of Starla's home planet to her being the root cause. The joking thought that I kinda don't want to go with for some reason... is that she did it and that's why she then helped with the Daedalus project because deep down she's a planet destroying maniac.

    ...nope.avi

    As funny as it would be to say that the "Fine Vatian woman" is actually plotting to destroy planets for fun science...
    I can't take it seriously.

    Looking at one thing I had in Shinka...
    "The sooner I can get Nemesis done..." She stopped her sentence as she closed her eyes and relaxed, then she finished it in her mind. "The sooner I can figure things out on my own."

    I like this part on multiple levels... but I'm not certain what I can do from here...

    ...and as soon as I typed that I think I might have a possibility.

    She wants to figure things out on her own...
    What it could mean is that she's tired of only being told what others want her to know. She could have been living an extraordinarily straight forward and normal life. Doing basic research and such...
    ...but then she got extra curious and rebellious.

    ...aaaaand I type that out and think it doesn't quite work either. It's not clicking...
    I feel like that one piece of monologue is what could define her origins... but... what could cause it?

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  • S121
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    @Cucoo

    That sounds like a good idea. Like you said, it would also explain how the Nova Engine is possible.

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  • Cucoo5
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    Eternal Galaxy Project

    I was about to say "afterburners" as an explanation but that wouldn't address everything. Unless we said that the tech is not capable of being overloaded quite as easily as electrical devices and said that Gaia doesn't behave at all like electricity (yet can still be conducted via wiring...)

    Or the excess goes to the crystals which can store the excess effectively until some insane limit. The original concept of a Nova Engine was that should the crystals generate too much energy, they would cause an explosion similar to that of it's namesake. And that was with just two crystals that could fit in one fighter. Perhaps it could be a property of Corlaviri that allows this overcharge to happen...

    Using the Nova Engine, two crystals in sync can hold almost the same amount of power as a Nova before fault. Perhaps it scales from there.

    Hardware failure would be like normal overheating. If more energy is directed to it that is...

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    Last edited by Cucoo5; 12-02-2014, 08:19 PM.

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  • S121
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    @Cucoo

    Perhaps the load of energy on the machines? What happens when you have too much power being pumped into an electronic device?

    If all the normal fighters pumped their energy into each other, they would still have the same power output, if not less. The only way it would work is if one ship has significantly more power, but then you have to worry about the circuitry.

    They would need machines capable of taking that extra power, "overload capable" circuitry in their ships that work in accordance to the sci-fi "needs more power" trope. (DAMN YOU, TVTROPES!!!)

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  • Cucoo5
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    ...Shields.
    The projected Gaia Shields might be what allows this. Anything within the shield could leech off of the energy between the shield boundary and the source. Two craft projecting their shields around each other to form one large shield could allow the two to essentially combine their energy sources. Effectively, they would be creating a makeshift Nova Engine out of each other. And it can be chained from ship to ship...
    Though this would restrict how far it can be transmitted... which then brings into question: how would the GAIA Computer store and then transmit energy to the Daedalus Project...
    ...oh wait.... GAIA Computer generated a giant boundary around the Galaxy, forming a boundary around the Daedalus Project should be easier...
    Or else we would have one hell of a chain of ships going from Dua to the center of the Galaxy....

    Thoughts on possible limitations here?

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