[OOC Board] - All the World's a Game

[S121]

That sounds like it could work.

So basically, the universe not really a simulation, but the experiment of a higher being, and Another is basically ascended to a higher plane of existence, correct?

Oh, I just wanted to be sure that you knew that I wasn't trying to make a scene, or give you a hard time, I just really saw it as an emergency.

[Katrix]

The universe is a simulation, but one identical to how the universe we live in is probably simulated. And yes Another ascended somehow to this higher plane.

And it's alright. I suppose it's only me and Wriggle that like big plot twists.

One last question: Is Gensokyo considered the "Real world"?

[S121]

Well, considering the canon of Touhou, it would be in the real world. They would be video game characters by their own choosing. in a way, you could probably say that they, along with all the other mythological creatures, would be like the first video game characters, and that the reason why there are other universes is for the same reason Youkai were created. Once a large group of people began to share the same idea of a universe and the characters in it, it would eventually materialize into another universe, one that would be realistic in every regard, except for the fact that it was created by beings from another universe.

When you say simulation, do you mean like numbers, coding, and data, or probability, flesh and bone simulations?

My qualm was it being an artificial world where everything is just numbers and software. In the real world, there would be organic material.

[Katrix]

I'l talking about computer simulations. They are so lifelike that they are pretty much real tough. It won't impact the RP in any way except a group of extremely jealous people.

[wonderweiss]

I suppose it's only me and Wriggle that like big plot twists.

-w- you have no idea...

[S121]

@Katrix

I still haven't slept yet because I've been thinking of a way to stick to the original concept while still using your parts.

I haven't slept in 2 days, and I'm going on 3 days, so bear with me here...

My problem is with the universe being a program. Why does it need to be a program? What about all the other universes? The Devourer said that he visited many dimensions for planets. What about Xehanort wanting to combine all worlds and dimensions?

I was thinking that a biological universe would work better. After all, these beings are supposed to be advanced. Instead of numbers and coding, probability and improbability would dictate how the world works. The multiverse was created by a machine, but the machine only served as a catalyst. The multiverse is now being sustained by probability and improbability. This would tie in the improbability drives. think of the multiverse as a set of particles created by a giant machine. For the people inside the multiverse, an eternity is an eternity, but for the upper layers to the multiverse, an eternity is but a couple of seconds. I could draw a diagram of the multi-layered multiverse if you want.

You see where I'm going with this, right?

In all honesty, I find both the program/simulation idea and my idea to be overly complicated and unneeded, but I really am trying to find a way to keep the RP intact. You haven't been given many opportunities to participate in the RP, so I'm trying to make your contributions count when they arise. I honestly don't know what you're planning, so I can only go on assumptions and try to come up with ways to remedy the situation.

If you have any questions, then feel free to ask.



PS: I'm going to get off the computer for a while. My eyes hurt. I'm probably going to go do other things until I start to feel sleepy. I really can't sleep. I can only imagine how long I'm going to sleep once I do manage to fall asleep. I feel like I can go on forever, but that's obviously not healthy. My eyes burn a little, but that's all I feel. I'll check back later.

[wonderweiss]

Why not make him a character? Like what if someone was in the process of making a game that coincidentally had the same concept, but Another was the only character made before the Horizon incident and he is convinced that the real world is his own. Just throwing that out.

[S121]

That actually might be a good idea.

We'll work it out more later.

[wonderweiss]

Alright. Schools starting. Gotta go.

[Katrix]

In all honesty how the world works doesn't really matter. The thing that matters is that this universe is just a part of something much bigger. (this universe is a atom of a bigger universe, this universe is a simulation created by a bigger universe, this universe is a a part of a much bigger biological system.) It doesn't really matter what the case is as long as Another is a higher being that is part of a higher universe, unable to interact with this universe.

[Cucoo5]

In all honesty how the world works doesn't really matter. The thing that matters is that this universe is just a part of something much bigger. (this universe is a atom of a bigger universe, this universe is a simulation created by a bigger universe, this universe is a a part of a much bigger biological system.) It doesn't really matter what the case is as long as Another is a higher being that is part of a higher universe, unable to interact with this universe.

Ok seriously, Another sounds like Zanza.

incoming spoilers that aren't that spoilery

Spoiler:

Zanza, named Klaus at the time, was once a scientist whose curiosity was so great that he attempted to change the universe. His experiment was a complete success, in that he essentially wiped out the universe's initial existence, taking the Earth and the rest of the Universe with it, and restarted it. Zanza and Meyneth emerged from the endless sea of this new universe as Bionis and Mechonis respectively.

bigger spoilers, continuation of his profile from wiki.

Spoiler:

Many years before the start of Xenoblade Chronicles, Zanza began to fear the day when his brethen would leave him, since it would mean his own demise because of not regaining the ether from the deceased denizens of the Bionis. Coupled with his growing loneliness and the fading of awareness of him among the denizens of the Bionis, convinced Zanza to engineer a cycle of destruction and regeneration, in which all life must eventually be destroyed, returning to him to be recreated, in order to avoid his own demise. Zanza possessed the body of the giant Arglas through the Monado. In this body he warred against the Mechonis and was defeated as Bionis, but not before enlisting the services of Dickson, Lorithia, and Alvis as his Trinity of Disciples. Choosing Alvis, however, proved to lead to Zanza's undoing.

[NeoFox]

In all honesty how the world works doesn't really matter. The thing that matters is that this universe is just a part of something much bigger. (this universe is a atom of a bigger universe, this universe is a simulation created by a bigger universe, this universe is a a part of a much bigger biological system.) It doesn't really matter what the case is as long as Another is a higher being that is part of a higher universe, unable to interact with this universe.

The way you worded that makes it seem like we can just have this Universe the way it was this whole time and not a simulation of any kind, while Another is a Higher being from a completely different universe still.

So if that's the way you want it then why can't this universe we have had for this RP just not be a simulation of any kind? Another could still be a higher being from a higher universe, and we won't really have to change anything in the universe our characters are in. Not a simulation, or anything like that. Right?

[Mega134]

Sorry guys... sorry... forgot about the forums... been busy on the Minecraft forums RP section. Also since I'm here what I miss?

[wonderweiss]

Nm. We decided that once all arcs have been completed, a second season will be made. Speaking of which, we should work on the China arc.

[S121]

Ok, after some sleep, I can finally think clearly and say what I was trying to say all along.

If it's an electronic simulation, then the characters aren't actually doing anything important.

Think of is as a game. Minecraft can be considered a simulation. I can mine all the diamonds I want, but in the end, it has little to no impact to the game world or this one.

In the real, biological world, choices have very real, and very damaging consequences, things can not be undone or altered by typing a code into the grand simulation, one person can make a difference in the world, and the characters are actually living, breathing beings, just how the original concept intended.



Now it's just a matter of cleaning up IC.




EDIT:

Now I feel like drawing a map of the dimensions I was talking about.